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Friday, April 23rd, 2010 05:08 pm
Friday, April 23rd, 2010 10:42 pm (UTC)
When you're working on national security, that kinda thing is to be expected. But consumer electronic gadgets?

I really think Steve Jobs is losing it.
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 01:18 am (UTC)
Maybe Jobs' pancreatic cancer metastasized, and some of it went to his brain. As in what happened to John Kramer, a.k.a. Jigsaw, the central character in Saw (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saw_(film)). (Which could make for a great movie all by itself. It starts with Apple's version of the Gestapo silently closing and locking all the doors to outside of the building while the employees aren't looking. And then . . .) The other thing it reminds me of are Scientology (http://www.xenutv.com)'s version of the secret police -- who, unlike Apple's version, have no qualms at all about subjecting people to handling so rough it has frequently culminated in gross injury to, acute mental illness in, or even the deaths of their victims. Apple isn't that bad -- yet. Steve Jobs isn't L. Ron Hubbard's evil twin. Yet . . .
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 06:17 am (UTC)
I agree that L. Ron Hubbard was a long way from either saintly or perfect, but he's not to blame for what David Miscavige is doing to the members of that church. Hubbard and his "spiritual technology" don't have anything in common with the way things have been for the last 20 years in that organization. Get your target correctly identified.

I was a member of The Church of Scientology, and a staff member for nearly 10 years. I left the church of my own free will. But, it wasn't the policies or the tech that were at fault, it was current management not following them.
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 06:24 am (UTC)
Yes, well, Scientologists who devoutly believed in L. Ron Hubbard and all his works defrauded my adoptive mother of money she couldn't afford to spend, and left me with a raging case of Graves' Disease that almost killed me, thanks to their incompetent/fraudulent claims of medical expertise. I was just 14 at the time; it was Summer of 1959, my adoptive father had died the previous December, leaving my adoptive mother to try to fend for herself -- and she was very fragile, emotionally speaking, with little experience earning a living and dealing with the world. She was very vulnerable then, and that clinic run by Scientologists took advantage of her -- and me. No, I've got all my targets properly identified. Among other things, I am a practicing Ceremonial Magickian in the so-called Western tradition, a student of Aleister Crowley, who was born at Huntington Hospital, Pasadena, California in 1945 and grew up in San Gabriel and Pasadena, California, and who is not now at all enamored of the creepy subculture of hedge-wizard, half-assed occultists that had come into existence there, of which Hubbard was a member and out of which Scientology was born. Among those of my school -- think of us as practitioners of a Western version of Zen Buddhism -- Hubbard is known as "Frater X," and not with much if any love. He ripped off Jack Parsons, his teacher, claimed to be close friends with Aleister Crowley, Parsons' teacher, when in fact he was anything but, and lied and lied and lied and lied about his career and everything related to it, and frankly, I'd rather be best buddies with a king cobra than have anything to do with Hubbard or Corporate Scientology or Miscavage, for a host of reasons you don't seem to be familiar with.
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 07:11 am (UTC)
I repeat - Hubbard was "a long way from either saintly or perfect". I'm not trying to defend what happened to you or your mother. I agree with you that such actions are worthy of rebuke. I'm also not blind to his other faults. Unlike many who are still in the church, I've used the internet to educate myself as to what those faults may include, and your complaints don't begin to scratch the surface. The only thing I'm trying to accomplish is distancing "scientology" as a philosophy from the current reality of the corporation known as "The Church of Scientology". The two are worlds apart.

But, when you complain about the Church of Scientology's "secret police" you are mostly complaining about something that was called the Guardian's Office when Hubbard was still the Executive Director. The GO wasn't terribly concerned with "internal security" so much as conducting CIA-type information gathering raids on the government, as a response to the fact that the church had been the victim of such raids BY the government. After getting bitch-slapped BY THE GOVERNMENT for this activity, Hubbard closed down the Guardian's Office and most of the members of that area were expelled from the church permanently.

After he assumed control of the church, Miscavige resurrected the GO under a different name, and made church staff and parishioners it's primary targets (though it does work with local governments where legal threats to the local church or other security issues might come up). Still, due to the Department of Special Affairs (DSA) network, if you disagree with DM, the best place to be is permanently outside the church. Which is where I am, and will stay.

Since leaving the Church of Scientology, I've become interested in the occult and Zen Buddhism, though (since I live in SE Kansas) it is rather hard to find teachers to study from. Can you point me to some teachers you trust?
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 05:20 pm (UTC)
I imagine there aren't too many Zen masters in Kansas, yeah...
Sunday, April 25th, 2010 03:58 am (UTC)
As far as the Guardian's Office goes, I refer you to Xenu TV (http://www.xenutv.com) 's wonderful articles on all aspects of Corporate Scientology past and present. As for the rest, I started studying and practicing the Western Ceremonial tradition and numerous others when I was in my 20s. I'm now 65, and have had four decades of it. Hubbard took the best of what he had to offer from those same traditions; he also threw in a lot of stuff that wasn't that valuable, and some that was downright counterproductive. I figure going straight to the original source, cutting out the middleman, works just as well as anything else. I also grew up not far from where Jack Parsons lived and worked, and over the years I've learned quite a bit about his life and career as well as his relationship with Hubbard, and the relationships they both had with Crowley, who frankly thought that their dabblings in certain risky forms of evocation was idiotic. (He was right, too, as witness the way Parsons died (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Parsons), and what happened to Hubbard as a result of getting busted by the feds for Operation Snow White.) I'd rather stick to what I've found to be trustworthy and of lasting value. Anyway, if you want good teachers, I would recommend the works of Aleister Crowley, especially his Liber (http://www.scribd.com/doc/515813/Liber-777) 777 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/777_and_Other_Qabalistic_Writings_of_Aleister_Crowley), his Book of Thoth (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Thoth_(Crowley)), his Magick Without Tears (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magick_Without_Tears), his autobiographical Confessions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Confessions_of_Aleister_Crowley), and just about anything else by him; anything by Israel Regardie, a student of Crowley; Frater Albertus's books on alchemy; and John Lilly's Astrology, if you can find a copy. (Most or even all of these are also available free on the Web -- just goggle title and author to find them.) If you would like more, please let me know.



Sunday, April 25th, 2010 04:29 am (UTC)
Wow! Thank you for the references!

Being new to the studies (only began about 5 years ago) I found out right away that there is a lot of material on the internet, but there is a lot of trash-talking about who has what and how good it's value is for study. Getting recommendations from someone who's been using it for 40 years is a huge help! I'll do the google searches to get those titles tomorrow. Again, thank you!
Sunday, April 25th, 2010 05:12 am (UTC)
You're most welcome. :-) Anything by Aleister Crowley, Israel Regardie, Frater Albertus, and a few others would be excellent; I gave you titles of their works I have found particularly useful, but there are plenty of others that are good. You should also get a good textbook on geology, and one on physical chemistry and biochemistry, if you don't already have them, so that you can learn the properties of minerals and organic substances, which is very useful when learning alchemy, qaballah, and Magick. Two other types of reference I have found particularly useful, many examples of which I have in my own personal library, are good texts on astrobiology and fire science/scholasticism. I've reviewed a number of these on my blog; click on the following tags to see them: http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/astrobiology, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/peter%20d%20ward, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/stephen%20j%20pyne, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/books (and, if you like, follow up with the tags that come up on posts accessed via these links). Along with my literary partner, Rich Ransdell, I have written a number of novels in a science-fiction series called Here There Be Dragons, published versions of some of which can be found at http://www.iuniverse.com/Bookstore/BookSearchResults.aspx?Search=dragon%20drive. One of the central characters of that series is an astrobioligist, a man named Monty Eisenstein, who is also a Ceremonial Magickian. So we've had to do a lot of research on the science as well as the mysteries. :-)
Sunday, April 25th, 2010 05:26 am (UTC)
Just realized: you might also find these links of use: http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/magick, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/qaballah, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/alchemy, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/astrology, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/dragons, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/vesta, http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/poetry. Some of the posts accessed via these links include material on various esoteric subjects.
Sunday, April 25th, 2010 07:35 am (UTC)
And last, but not least, is http://polaris93.livejournal.com/tag/fire -- fire has been with us for at least two million years, it seems now. We are unique in our ability to make and deploy fire and secondary sources of high heat. Neurologically and spiritually, our relationship with fire is deep in the human makeup. The science, mythology, mystique, and historical use of fire by human beings is therefore intimately intertwined with Magick as we use it: Magick is the Art and Science of causing change in conformity with Will, and anthropogenic fire is one way we have wrought enormous changes in the natural and human world.
Sunday, April 25th, 2010 06:17 pm (UTC)
Hmmmm . . . after spending over an hour clicking on links from my google search, I can't seem to find a copy of the "Book of Thoth" that isn't either "membership required" or on a torrent. I got Liber 777. Now I'm going to start looking for "Magick without Tears" and "Confessions".

I'll take a look in my archives - I think I already have some of Frater Albertus's books. He was referenced in an online alchemy study group I joined briefly (internal bickering soured me on the group).
Sunday, April 25th, 2010 06:18 pm (UTC)
The Book of Thoth -- both the book and the Tarot pack -- are widely available, including on amazon.com. I'd try there -- often you can get real bargains on such things.
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 05:17 pm (UTC)
So, "Fair Game" is not Hubbard tech?
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 05:34 pm (UTC)
As it was originally written, it was meant to apply to corporations/governments/people who were ACTIVELY trying to do serious harm to the Church. In that sense, yes it was Hubbard's policy.

However, DM has since broadened it's use to include anyone who disagrees with DM, or mentions in a SecCheck that they've thought about leaving staff, or dares to ask why DM never gives concrete numbers when he's announcing "highest ever" stats at the events. In that sense, no, it's not Hubbard's policy.

Hubbard wrote policy that specifically stated that ANYONE who requested a refund was to be payed that refund in full before the next weekly staff meeting. HA! I've seen people spend years getting their "donations" back, if they even managed to get them then! I've seen the best and most successful staff in an org tossed out and "declared" for no better reason than a rich relative wouldn't come in until that person was gone. LRH at least tried to service people - DM only services bank accounts.
Sunday, April 25th, 2010 05:29 am (UTC)
I have heard that while Hubbard was actively in charge of the Church of Scientology, it was much more light-hearted than now, and even fun. Hubbard is said to have taught that Scientology and Dianetics should be fun. That is not the case with Corporate Scientology as it now is. David Miscavage is obviously one of those opportunistic little bastards who, given the opportunity to have total power over a group of helpless people, enjoys wielding to the fullest -- in the manner of, say, an Ivan the Terrible. That only happened after Hubbard's death, so it can't be blamed on Hubbard. Miscavage is now on the run because Interpol, the FBI, etc. want him on human trafficking charges. I just hope that without him Scientology will become something which can be fun once again, because it sure as hell ain't now!
Saturday, April 24th, 2010 02:38 am (UTC)
Considering that my cell phone has 4GB of flash memory and a USB interface, yes, consumer electronic gadgets. This is awful and invasive, I do see the logic.