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Tuesday, October 10th, 2006 09:40 am

I want to find a good chiropractor in Southern New Hampshire.  Specifically, I want to find a chiropractor like the two GOOD ones I knew in San Jose, California.  A chiropractor who isn't into all the new-age holistic stuff, won't try to glue magnets to my back or sell me energized water, doesn't think that conventional medicine is "death medicine" and that vaccinations are deadly, won't lie to me about X-rays when I can see perfectly clearly he's drawing lines between two different sets of reference points to try to show a result that isn't true, won't try to treat my back pain by giving me electric shocks in my earlobe, and won't try to tell me that wearing a ball cap weighted with 6lb of lead will make my vision sharper.  I just want a chiropractor who knows the spine and skeleton, knows his drop table, and isn't afraid to use it.  Preferably, one who won't get bent out of shape when I say "Look, I know exactly what the problem is, I just can't treat it myself."

Anyone have any recommendations or referrals...?

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Tuesday, October 10th, 2006 07:08 pm (UTC)
If you ever get out to San Jose, California look up Todd Bragg.

He made house calls for established patients with a spring loaded device that tweaked alignment just enough so the person could get out of bed and to his office and the drop table.

Never once did he push anything other than exercise, healthy eating, and getting a massage before you got chiropractic treatment.
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006 08:17 pm (UTC)
His policy is that he'll make house calls for established patients only, and only in emergencies. At the time, I wasn't a patient of his (and didn't even know him, actually). However, [livejournal.com profile] wolfspaw was a client of his both as a DC and as a personal trainer, and explained the situation and persuaded him to make an exception for a "future established patient".

I can't say the activator was very pleasant -- it was rather like being repeatedly hit on the corner of the sacrum with a small hammer -- but two weeks of four house calls a week got me mobile enough to make it in to his office and onto his drop table.
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006 09:00 pm (UTC)
One of my good friends is now a Chiro - known him since 1st grade, with some signifigant gaps since then, but then met back up with him in college (when he was pre-med).

Now he's drunk heavily of the (non-homeopathically-diluted) Kool-Aide, and is very dismissive of doctors. So I give him a very hard time. :)

Your example (and I'll take your word for it, not going to be in the SJ area anytime soon) might be the one who "proves the case", as the non-logical statement goes... Certainly all the others I've known, as common-sensed and grounded as they were, got very mystic at times. The one who treated my spinal/neck issues was fine when I talked to her (The mentor of my friend, actually), but she had posters and pamphets in her waiting room about curing cancer and AIDS....
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006 10:23 pm (UTC)
the one who "proves the case", as the non-logical statement goes...
It's not logical because it's one of the most widely misquoted and misunderstood of all common English sayings.

People talk blithely about "the exception that proves the rule", but it is actually and correctly "the exception that puts the rule to the test of proof".  In other words, not "Here's an exception; the rule must be true" but rather, "Here's an exception that appears to refute your rule; can you show that it in fact does not?"
Wednesday, October 11th, 2006 02:00 am (UTC)
'"Quod si exceptio facit ne liceat, ubi non sit exceptum." ... Cicero said, if you prohibit something in certain cases, you imply that the rest of the time it's permitted.' (http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a3_201.html)

If this explanation is to be believed, the saying is a legal thing and thus has little to do with logic.
Wednesday, October 11th, 2006 02:22 am (UTC)
I think this is a case of dragging in an apparently-related saying which doesn't, in point of fact, actually have direct bearing on the original subject of discussion. I notice, though, that in Cecil's discussion of this divergence into Cicero, he does eventually come back to the idea that the underlying concept is "the exception tests the rule".

The Cicero "Quod si exceptio..." quotation is really something almost entirely separate from this concept -- it's not saying that finding an exception either proves or tests (or disproves) a rule, it's saying that in the field of law, explicitly declaring exceptions to a rule strongly implies that the rule applies in all cases but the enumerated exceptions. Which isn't the same thing at all.