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Thursday, August 20th, 2009 11:51 pm

[livejournal.com profile] cipherpunk discusses the differences between the two, and how the government has turned a short and strictly enumerated list of only seventeen things it is allowed by the Constitution to do, all other things being forbidden to it, into "We can do whatever we want".

Sunday, August 23rd, 2009 01:42 am (UTC)
I simply don't see the history that makes the argument for a weaker Federal government valid.
And that's precisely the problem.

In the words of Gerald R. Ford (yes, that Gerald R. Ford; he was President at the time), "If government is big enough to give you everything you want, it is big enough to take away everything you have." What he didn't mention was that not only is a government that is big enough to take away everything you have not necessarily big enough to also give you everything you want, but it doesn't necessarily even have any pressing motivation to do so.
Sunday, August 23rd, 2009 02:11 am (UTC)
"I dreamt I dwelt in marble halls,/ And woke to find it true;/ I wasn't born for an age like this;/ Was Smith? Was Jones? Were you?"--Orwell, "A Happy Vicar I Might Have Been"

Barry Goldwater, it's said, was fond of repeating that remark of Ford's, in the 1964 campaign during which, yes, he invented the Southern Strategy. At that time, the South was very much resentful of Johnson's laws which ended institutionalized racism. Open racism was no longer nationally acceptable, so they talked about small government and states rights. So the story of the slaveholders continued at that time, and continues to this day.

I would prefer much less large-scale power in our lives. Yet I don't see how we can hope to retain any personal freedoms without a powerful democratic government. Without that government, "we the people" stand no chance at all against the big corporations and the various foreign tyrannies. At least with the US Federal government I get a vote and the benefit of democratic traditions, even if those traditions could be stronger and my vote only makes much difference in one house of Congress.

Tuesday, August 25th, 2009 07:46 pm (UTC)
As a very late thought on this: it occurs to me it is the banks and financial firms, with the connivance of the government, that have "taken it all away" for many people. Strikingly, "minimal government" arguments were used to justify this.

The regulation of commerce is one of the oldest functions of government. It seems that abandoning it, or corrupting it, is one way the government can take it all away.