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Wednesday, July 1st, 2009 06:38 pm

Diamonds aren’t forever.  Diamonds are for about 10160 years ... just like any other baryonic matter.

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Thursday, July 2nd, 2009 02:34 am (UTC)
Where do you get that number from?
Thursday, July 2nd, 2009 02:47 am (UTC)
It's the only number I've ever seen quoted for proton decay. You know of a different one...?

(I'm not trying to be rigorous here, btw ... it was just a whimsical thought that occurred to me today.)
Edited 2009-07-02 02:48 am (UTC)
Thursday, July 2nd, 2009 02:54 am (UTC)
Well, the only number I know of is the lower bound from deep-underground water Cherenkov detectors, 10^33 years.

I would be more concerned about beta decay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_decay). :)
Thursday, July 2nd, 2009 03:03 am (UTC)
Yeah, true, but [hypothetical] proton decay is over a hundred orders of magnitude closer to "forever in all practical terms anyway". ;)
Thursday, July 2nd, 2009 07:49 am (UTC)
There is a certain class of GUT models which predict proton lifetimes shorter than 10^33 years, so they are problematic.

Whether or not that is a practical concern I guess depends on your aims. :)
Thursday, July 2nd, 2009 07:53 pm (UTC)
Ah, I wasn't aware of that. But I believe you said we have a 10^33 lower bound from the deep Cerenkov detectors, right? Which would tend to argue against those particular GUTs...
Friday, July 3rd, 2009 02:57 am (UTC)
Right, so these models are now problematic.

By "problematic" I mean disfavored in their stock form, and less appealing when they are made more complicated to avoid this problem.