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Wednesday, May 20th, 2009 11:00 pm (UTC)
You could possibly find someone with a Sencore picture tube rejuvinator that actually has the adapter for that. I think they were or are the last manufacturer of those. They were also the best. It's around 50+ to get it done, spendy and you pay up front.

If it actually works it will last from 76ms to a year. (1995 or earlier) 10 year old barely gasping Sony tubes would perk right up and work for 3 or more years. Pre-86 or so.

You can thump the tube some by shorting across each output transistor in turn. (power off, short, power on with video).

That causes beam current to go to the max and usually engages the safety circuit. Not good to do all three as it can crack the neck of the tube on startup. Electron beam weapon time.

I've fixed some of their 3 year wonders that way and they average about a year. I scrounged thrift stores, fixed them then sold them. It was after my time fixing TV's as a job but Sony 36" ones were crapping out en masse.

Sony VCR's are a name that you've probably never heard of. I am blanking on their name. I bought a Zenith with Sony guts which was the licensing scheme that killed betamax and used ONE tape with it. For 3 years and constantly recorded and watched stuff. Sold it and the capstan motor blew. Found out they'd sprayed something in it to clean it. I even recorded some games while being played on the C64 on it.

Wednesday, May 20th, 2009 11:37 pm (UTC)
You could possibly find someone with a Sencore picture tube rejuvinator that actually has the adapter for that. I think they were or are the last manufacturer of those. They were also the best. It's around 50+ to get it done, spendy and you pay up front.
Sounds like by the time I pay for round-trip shipping on an 80lb monitor and "rejuvenation", I'm most of the way to a brand-new LCD monitor. For $229 er ... $220, I can have my choice of a 23" LG 1920x1080 LCD monitor with 50000:1 contrast ratio or a 23" Samsung 2048x1152 with 20000:1 contrast. (And actually, the LG has a $20-off promo until May 25.) Spending probably more than half that to get an extra year of life on a power-hungry CRT doesn't seem like it'd be a good deal.
Edited 2009-05-20 11:40 pm (UTC)
Thursday, May 21st, 2009 01:46 am (UTC)
Someone local....
Thursday, May 21st, 2009 02:01 am (UTC)
Hmmm ..... Possible, depending on the value of "local". There's damned few consumer electronics repair shops left out there these days. I remember when I tried to find a place to get my first Pioneer DVD player repaired ... couldn't find a place willing to look at it for what it would have cost me to just buy a new one. Consumer electronics these days are so highly integrated repair is seldom cost-effective. But sometimes it's exactly the small towns like Laconia, with no big electronics stores in the area, where the odd repair shop is still hanging on.

At this point I've more or less written off the monitor anyway. I'd sooner put the money towards replacing another of our CRTs with an LCD, especially if I can only expect to get another year out of it. Still, I appreciate the tip.
Thursday, May 21st, 2009 03:18 am (UTC)
The rejuvinator isn't really worth it. It's a crap shoot.

The free fix is try the shorting trick. But film it because if it goes it goes very well.

Prior to doing that I can write up an examination guide that might help. Let me know.
Thursday, May 21st, 2009 12:05 pm (UTC)
But film it because if it goes it goes very well.
As in "Y'all hold mah beer and watch this now"? ;)

What does shorting the power transistors actually do in this case? I always thought it was usually considered a Bad Idea.
Thursday, May 21st, 2009 09:54 pm (UTC)
You're bridging the cathode to ground. Beam current will go to the maximum the tube is capable of. This will try to produce soft X rays but a pick off from the HV transformer will monitor current and shut it down. There are several other redundant safeties.

But...
If you see something like this I'd probably have to have a schematic to figure out how to do it right.
http://www.national.com/opf/LM/LM2453.html