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[unixronin]

Gun control in the United States started out from racism.  The first gun control laws were designed to keep guns out of the hands of blacks.  New York’s 1911 Sullivan Act was to keep them out of the hands of Irishmen (and, arguably, Italians).

The more things change, the more they stay the same.  It’s now 2009, and the Illinois legislature is considering a zip-code-by-zip-code gun ban against “any assault weapon or .50-caliber rifle”, that specifically targets mostly-black neighborhoods in Chicago — and ONLY those neighborhoods.

While we’re on the subject, if you STFW for articles on the Sullivan Act mentioned above, you may stumble across a very interesting fact.  Pop quiz time!

• Q:  What senator from New York is among the three or four most vocal opponents in Congress of civilian gun ownership in the United States?  (Particularly handgun ownership, and GOD FORBID any mere citizen actually carry one?)
• A:  Senator Charles Schumer.
• Q:  What public figure is currently among the most highly-placed holders of a New York City Sullivan Act handgun carry permit?
• A:  ...Yup, you guessed it.  Senator Charles Schumer.

Oh, hypocrisy, thy name is irony.

So, let’s see, who does that put in the gun-control hypocrites club?

• Dianne Feinstein
• Chuck Schumer
• Ted Kennedy
• Josh Sugarmann

Who else?  Where does it stop?  (John Kerry’s idiotic duck-shoot photo-op hardly counts.  We want the MAJOR hypocrites here.)

Comments

[lebo-superman.livejournal.com]

Oh, how about any politician who has a 24/7 security detail paid for by the taxpayers, but thinks the average joe on the street shouldn't be allowed to protect himself. *ahem*

Or any TV celeb who screams loudly on TV against guns, even trying to humiliate another TV celeb who happens to not only own guns but sits on the Board of Directors of the NRA - while employing private security personnel who have CCW's. *cough*

Hypocrisy, thy name be "Democrat".

[ilcylic.livejournal.com]

Who is #2 there?

[lebo-superman.livejournal.com]

Rosie O'Donnell is hypocrite #2. The TV celeb she tried to humiliate for being on the NRA BOD was none other than Tom Selleck.

[ilcylic.livejournal.com]

Oh! I totally misread. Thought you were saying the person who was doing the ranting and humiliating was on the NRA BOD. And I was wondering how the hell a vocal anti- got there.

[lebo-superman.livejournal.com]

No, Rosie invited Tom onto her show, supposedly to talk about a new movie he was in, but when he got there she turned on him and started ranting about his being on the NRA BOD and being a gun owner. What she wasn't telling anyone was that she employs a private security detail who are all CCW licensees.

To show you how classy Tom is, he refused to get baited into a gun-control debate. As he got up to leave the stage of her show, he said, "It's your show, you can talk about it after I've left if you want." And leave he did.

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Oh yeah, Rosie O'Donnell ... another fine waste of oxygen.

[perspicuity.livejournal.com]

does anyone that relies on secret service carrying on their behalf count?

that's right mr president...

there's got to be a crapload of them

i can't imagine most of the senators and congress not having a few on their person while in DC.

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[lebo-superman.livejournal.com]

Mr. President is specifically who I was pointing at with my first example, above.

[perspicuity.livejournal.com]

great minds hit the same idea!

if we all has 1 MPG super tank cars too, we wouldn't need to be protected...

i know, let's tally up all the crimes committed with guns by "those in power", not just the legal and righteous shootings, but the ones deemed illegal and correlate for the civilian population while adjusting for various factors. should prove fun!

there a googlemashup i found a while ago, specifically aimed at the MD/DC area showing all the incidents with police involving violence, shootings, death, etc at the hands of the police. in particular, it noted cases where the police where at fault. it was ... staggering.

just tried to find the mashup, but it seems to have vanished.

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[lebo-superman.livejournal.com]

Not really surprising, since it existed to embarrass a division of the government.

[perspicuity.livejournal.com]

while trying to find it again, and going back to current stories about that mayor in maryland with the swat raid, his dogs getting shot, and a rather missing search warrant for 71 hours... turns out they didn't have a no-knock, the seized the dead dogs (what?), and ... well, police keep shooting dogs (another botched raid looking for a stolen police rifle). i have not seen a case where it wasn't justified, even when the rest of the case was a joke.

now, they're trying to pass a law in maryland, that ALL swat/raids will be available after the fact for review.

man, it just gets better and better. 50,000-60,000 swat raids last year in the USA. wow. i didn't know it was that bad out there.

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[perspicuity.livejournal.com]

this one isn't AS juicy:
http://www.burgersub.org/murders2k7.htm
but it's pretty telling as to the need for self-defense

the blue-icons are death by police. including tasering, pepperspray (cause of death "unknown"), and such. somewhere in there is a 14 yo girl shot through a door by a cop with a bad warrant. justified. good stuff.

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[ilcylic.livejournal.com]

let's tally up all the crimes committed with guns by "those in power", not just the legal and righteous shootings, but the ones deemed illegal and correlate for the civilian population while adjusting for various factors.

Like "Having a machine gun in DC"?

And your tank car comment has me wonder, what's Obama's fucking Carbon Footprint?

[perspicuity.livejournal.com]

much higher than yours or mine

he has a staff for nearly every function, flys more than the average bear...

but he's putting in a victory garden at the whitehouse. isn't that nice? i wonder who's going to water and maintain it? mmm. oh, and a basketball court too.

he still smokes.

takes an armored car and flys in his friends whereever he is to play hoop everyday. EVERYDAY.

not sure about his kids, or his wife. they stay pretty low key, except for "eating more vegetables, because they're getting a bit chubby, everyone should eat more good clean vegetables..." and "we're going organic!"

could be worse. oh, i wonder if all those obama posters got picked up!

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[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Obamette's comment is pretty much the Washington DC 2009 equivalent of "Let them eat cake."

[perspicuity.livejournal.com]

totally my thought a while ago. a big old "smack in the face". "why yes, you all SHOULD be eating better, like us, natural whole foods..." nice.

i'm not really sure what special skills she has, unlike some other First Ladies... so gardening and minding the kitchen staff to make sure they don't put fat in her daughters spinach puree is perhaps in line. dunno really, the transparent O method hasn't reached out with the information rays and informed me and i guess i haven't really been that interested to find out - she doesn't seem at all interesting, and even less so the daughters.

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[mrmeval.livejournal.com]

Think we could get Tom to record 15 comebacks to the froth monkey?
"Guns cause crime like spoons make Rosie O'Donnell fat"
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[mrmeval.livejournal.com]

I really did not know that about Tom Selleck. I'd have paid for him to fire back the spoon quote and for someone to smuggle it out. Hell it would have been marvelous smack down if he'd taken what was aired and them spliced that quote in a released it as 'the real story'. I don't think he would he seems honorable.

The NRA has not been a friend in several critical cases the first DC gun case they took a crap in and lost is one. Raping Geogrians out of a better CCW system. Interference in laws and court cases going back decades pushing an agenda that favors their bureaucracy and existence. Pournelle's iron law of bureaucracy can also be applied to large organizations. That does not mean I won't support them but I will not do so without being a lot more involved.