Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 08:30 am

First of all, my congratulations to Barack Obama.  Not just for winning the election; it shouldn't matter to us that he is the first African-American to be elected President, yet it does, and to the extent that it does, that too is an achievement.  Still, that race is closer in many ways than it seems; that huge 202-point lead in the electoral college translates to only a 6% lead in the popular vote, with 48 of 50 states reporting.

So, after the longest and most expensive US Presidential campaign in history, the Democratic Party controls — or will control, come January — the White House and both houses of Congress.  Their control is not strong enough that they can completely ignore the other side of the aisle, though in the House they came close, 39 seats short of a two-thirds majority.

"Audacity won", the AP reported.  "Now Barack Obama must validate the hope and deliver the change he promised."  In the next four years, we'll see whether the Democratic Party actually does have any better answers, and whether the hope and change were just campaign talk.  I, personally, will be hoping the Democrats have the restraint not to use their almost-complete control of the government to punish or take revenge on the conservative side of the political spectrum.  (And, if truth be told, I won't be in the least surprised if we see a more-or-less-immediate flood of new draconian gun-control laws.  It would be terribly ironic, given the racist origins of gun control laws in the US.  I can but hope that the Democratic Party has learned, and internalized, the lesson that gun control cost them Congress and the Presidency eight years ago.)

And you know what?  I hope we've heard the last of the near-hysterical chorus of "OMGOMGOMGOMG BE AFRAID BE AFRAID BE AFRAID" that's been coming out of Washington for the last seven years.  But I'm definitely not holding my breath on that one.

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Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 01:37 pm (UTC)
Though I eventually did vote for Obama in the end (Palin was the tip point), I'm glad that the Dems did NOT get the super-majorities in the House and esp. the Senate. I'm a firm believer in checks and balances in the system and this (I hope) will keep more radical changes under wraps.

I hope..

Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 02:06 pm (UTC)
I'm curious if the folks on the Right that have been saying you're not patriotic if you don't support the President will still say that, or if there will be a sudden chorus of "He's not my President."
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 02:14 pm (UTC)
That'll be interesting to see, indeed. I foresee some significant head-explody on the Hard Right.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 02:23 pm (UTC)
It's already being called a "coup" in some Hard Right corners.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 02:31 pm (UTC)
I'm sure that's how the Left felt in the last two elections. And I'm sure the far Right will get just about as much sympathy as they gave out. ;-)
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 02:36 pm (UTC)
I remain cautious about the whole thing -- like another comment says, my deciding factor was Palin. Other than that, I felt like I was buying a pig in a poke. Lipstick optional.

This is the first time I've ever voted for a winning presidential candidate. That concept scares me. All the way back to Humphrey versus Nixon, I could say "Don't point that finger at _me_!"
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 05:22 pm (UTC)
I'd be really surprised if there was a big push of gun control laws. I know Obama has a history of it, but gun control has always been one of the least popular and least central of the party's positions. If we Democrats can hold on to popular opinion for four years, we'll have a mandate and see the Republicans marginalized and forced to regroup and hopefully re-emerging as something less crazy.

If the Democratic party prompts a backlash (and a surge in gun control laws would do that), then we'll have a brief period of Democratic control in an era of Republican domination, which I'd hate.

So, though I'm really ambivalent about gun control, I hope as strongly as you that it doesn't happen. It'd be stupid. And if Obama's proved one thing, it is that when it comes to political maneuvering, he's not stupid.

There will be more federal involvement in some industries like health care. I think that's objectionable to you, but I'm thrilled. If a Libertarian candidate ran the health care industry on the other hand, I'd be badly in debt and my son would be dead. I'm less than sympathetic that you're marginalized by our political process.
Wednesday, November 5th, 2008 06:59 pm (UTC)
If we Democrats can hold on to popular opinion for four years, we'll have a mandate and see the Republicans marginalized and forced to regroup and hopefully re-emerging as something less crazy.
I'm not sure at this point that the Republican Party can regroup. They've already marginalized or driven out many of their moderates. They can still do it if they're willing to abandon the evangelicals, but I'm not sure they can see that or do it.

There will be more federal involvement in some industries like health care. I think that's objectionable to you, but I'm thrilled. If a Libertarian candidate ran the health care industry on the other hand, I'd be badly in debt and my son would be dead.
I don't see that necessarily follows. I think every party has to acknowledge at this point that the US healthcare-for-profit system is badly broken. Gouging people for their last nickel and dime while holding their health hostage is ... ghoulish and macabre to say the least. I have no faith in the "free enterprise" system (which is to say, the rampant greed of the stock market) fixing that. I personally believe that if state-level, or even Federal-level, intervention and control is necessary to ensure that all citizens have access to health care they can afford, then it is the government's responsibility to do so.
(Then again, honestly I have little faith in the Federal government's ability to do so without massive waste and inefficiency either. Health care, I think, is a job for the states, several of which have already proven it can be done.)
Thursday, November 6th, 2008 02:29 pm (UTC)
I doubt you're right. I think in the next four years, Obama will be held responsible for every ambitious promise he can't keep and everything that went wrong. The Republicans will gain seats in the house (but probably not the senate) in 2010. In 2012, they might have enough people to impeach Obama for knowing William Ayers.

Not *every* party has to acknowledge healthcare-for-profit is broken. McCain's health policy would be exhibit A.

Every Libertarian whose explained their overall philosophy (and few are shy about it), have said the federal government should do nothing or do nothing but maintain a police force and an army. Health care should be private or (as religious Libertarians explain it) the responsibility of the church.

Or, put it more simply, Libertarians want to reduce or eliminate taxes no matter the human cost (including my son). If you want more federal regulation of health care, I suspect you're rare among your party.

Health care run at the state level might work for the most part, but I'm pretty sure it'd fail in poor states (Mississipi, Louisiana) and amoral states (my own Texas).
Thursday, November 6th, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
I think in the next four years, Obama will be held responsible for every ambitious promise he can't keep and everything that went wrong.
Oh, I haven't the least doubt of it. President of the United States has to be a pretty thankless job in that regard. Congress screws the pooch, and the President gets the blame.
Every Libertarian whose [sic] explained their overall philosophy (and few are shy about it), have said the federal government should do nothing or do nothing but maintain a police force and an army. Health care should be private or (as religious Libertarians explain it) the responsibility of the church.
Well, as with every other political grouping, there's idealists and realists. :) Even the strictest constitutional interpretation gives the Federal Government a fairly clearly defined non-empty list of duties, and "police" isn't on it. Strict literalists argue that while the Constitution empowers Congress to raise and maintain a Navy, the Constitution does not authorize the maintenance of the US Air Force, for example, though most realists will have to agree that (1) we cannot realistically dispense with the Air Force, and (2) the Air Force cannot realistically be privately maintained.

I'll willingly grant there is no explicit Constitutional authority for health care, though I'm sure some kind of strained rationale through the commerce clause could be derived. A possible rationale might be established through the Privileges and Immunities clause of Article IV, Section 2, for the Federal government to ensure that health care provisions are more or less uniform throughout the States, inasmuch as a citizen who has the privilege of effective and affordable healthcare in their own home state should have the expectation of the same when travelling to any other state.

But to me, it seems that for the simplest and clearest source of Constitutional authority to regulate health care and make sure it is generally and uniformly available, one need look no further than the General Welfare clause right up front in the Preamble. How the hell can you have "general welfare" if getting sick means you choose between dying or going into debt for the rest of your life?
Thursday, November 6th, 2008 04:23 am (UTC)
...i was worried the pendulum would swing back too far. it looks like it hasn't... but it seems a close thing. it'll take some time to see how it plays out...