Monday, February 25th, 2008 10:43 am

So here I am, looking again at listings for part-time work-from-home to bring in a little extra money.  The past six years or so have convinced me that I'm unemployable full-time for anything I'm physically capable of doing at this point¹ (I could probably get hired to work retail at, say, Home Depot, but my knees and left foot would never stand it).  And it seems there's basically three types of jobs listed if you're looking to work from home:

  1. Telemarketing.  'Nuff said.

    (I'd almost sooner mug old ladies.)

  2. Unspecified get-rich-quick promises using all the pyramid-scam buzzwords.

    (Sub-category:  Unspecified get-rich-quick promises using all the pyramid-scam buzzwords plus a liberal showering of "Christian" and "Mentor" and the like, to take advantage of the pious who think that if it's Christian it must be honest, because surely no fellow Christian would ever try to cheat them... right?)

  3. And "Get paid to take surveys on your computer."  I have a hard time believing there's significant money in that.  The sites I've looked at so far, it seems that to sign up, you have to agree to be spammed, opt in to a bunch of marketing crap, and sometimes even sign up for online college courses.  Can you say "just another scam"?  Sure you can.

Once again, I find myself wondering about a home-based PC repair business.  "The PC Doctor makes house calls!"  With places like Best Buy charging $70-$80 just to examine and diagnose a problem, there almost has to be a way to undercut them on repairs, and there may be money in support too.  (With the number of cheap-crap white-box PCs on the market stuffed full of lowest-bidder parts, there's probably little chance of making money building machines; anyone who knows enough to understand why it's worth using better-quality components probably knows enough to build their own.)

But how does one get started...?

[1]  Well, unless I were willing to uproot everyone again and move back to California.  Which I'm not.  It'd be chancing everything on a roll of the dice, and we'd be back into apartment-rental hell for the foreseeable future.

Monday, February 25th, 2008 03:48 pm (UTC)
There is inbound telemarketing -- "operators are standing by" now usually means "your call is being routed to someone's home".

But, yeah, the options all kind of scrape.
Monday, February 25th, 2008 04:02 pm (UTC)
Alpine Access - inbound customer service.

They're legit at least. :)
http://www.alpineaccess.com/external/careers/
Monday, February 25th, 2008 07:35 pm (UTC)
Thanks for the pointer — I'll check them out.

(Hmm. Looks like I meet basically all of their requirements except "Quiet and professional environment during work periods." Um, this may be just a wild stab in the dark, but I'm going to guess "screaming fighting children in the background", which is all too frequent, doesn't qualify there...)
Monday, February 25th, 2008 04:07 pm (UTC)
I took surveys for Pinecone Research for a while. It was legit. It was also $5 per survey, with a limited number of surveys available. You might be able to earn as much as $30 a month.
Monday, February 25th, 2008 07:36 pm (UTC)
Yeah, I was figuring the reality was probably something like that.
Monday, February 25th, 2008 04:57 pm (UTC)
Contract programming?
Monday, February 25th, 2008 07:45 pm (UTC)
A contract coding gig would be ideal, yeah. Knock off a couple of small gigs a month...
Monday, February 25th, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
Before I got this gig, I was looking into remote sysadminning, possibly contract/short term gigs where I might have to travel once or twice during the duration of the contract.

One of our maintenance companies approached us with a offer of support, the company they're subbing for for phone/software support appeared to use people at home for escalations. (They told us highly trained, highly experienced people. Sounded interesting, but I want Sun Support because if I'm calling them, it ain't easily googleable, and I've probably run through the obvious attempts.)

I could dig up the contact info if you'd be interested in tossing a resume towards the company.

(The websites I was looking at in 2002.. I don't recall off the top of my head, I'll see what I've got on the hard drive at home..)
Monday, February 25th, 2008 07:37 pm (UTC)
I could dig up the contact info if you'd be interested in tossing a resume towards the company.
It couldn't hurt. There's got to be some way out of this.
Saturday, March 1st, 2008 05:03 am (UTC)
They sounded interested. Mail inbound.
Monday, February 25th, 2008 05:15 pm (UTC)
For a while after my concussion I worked as a sysadmin for several smaller businesses (real estate and small retail). They all had networks and computers. I was responsible for security and keeping them running. It paid the bills.

I am doing one of the MLM things right now. It ain't get-rich-quick, but there is definitely money to be made, if you are willing to work.
Monday, February 25th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
For a while after my concussion I worked as a sysadmin for several smaller businesses (real estate and small retail). They all had networks and computers. I was responsible for security and keeping them running. It paid the bills.
Yeah, something like that would work fine, I'm sure. It's finding them and getting in. (A realistic evaluation of my self-marketing abilities includes phrases such as "hot meal" and "starving Eskimo".)
Monday, February 25th, 2008 08:02 pm (UTC)
Marketing is a learned skill. There is no real magic involved. It is not my favorite thing, but it does work.
Monday, February 25th, 2008 08:37 pm (UTC)
What about technical writing?

If you can't get a job with someone else doing it, then you could always set up a "real" blog and get Google Ads on it.

Among other things, there are a lot of free or nearly free options for various applications on the internet. There's a demand among people running searches for articles comparing them.

There's a whole lot of applications that offer evaluation versions. There's a searching market for articles comparing products.

Do good work and you might be able to get enough traffic and click through to make a bit of cash.

The other side of that is a good site with a lot of traffic is an advertisement for your ability to do technical writing. Product reviews and technical writing aren't all that dissimilar.

You don't necessarily need to be employed by someone else to do technical writing---could run it as your own business and target smaller mom and pop shops who can't afford to take someone on full time.

I don't know what standard rates are for tech writing, but for short stories and such, typical (unless you're a pro) is about two or three cents a word, so you'd probably want a minimum, or a base charge to look at it and then by the word. Dunno. You'd have to investigate average pricing.

Tech writing doesn't really take much talent--just a good grasp of the English language and the ability to explain things clearly.

If you do the pc repair business, you might want to try the tech writing/product reviewing thing as a sideline.

The advantage of product reviews is you can work them in as money work, however limited, when you're low on other work. They also serve as an advertisement for your PC repair business, by demonstrating you know what the f*** you're talking about. :-)
Monday, February 25th, 2008 10:47 pm (UTC)
If you go the writing route, a friend of mine was doing political writing for AP News (apnews.com) for a while. If your article is accepted, they pay up to 5c a word.
Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 01:58 am (UTC)
5 cents per word? hours of skull sweat into a thousand word political essay for a miserable fifty bucks? ouch.
Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 09:35 am (UTC)
For unsolicited, freelance writing? That's actually top pay. :)

And yeah, ouch is why I don't do it.
Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 02:12 pm (UTC)
it sure makes me appreciate my freelance writing gig at macintouch. but then, it's not unsolicited, i guess i have some value worth asking for :)
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 01:16 am (UTC)
If you can't get a job with someone else doing it, then you could always set up a "real" blog and get Google Ads on it.
I've thought about that before. I tried to come up with a list of what to write about. And I realized I'm not good at coming up with Regular Factual Articles With, Like, Substance To Them.

I didn't consider the angle of doing product comparisons though. That's not a bad idea. Neither is leveraging it into technical writing.

I'm going to have to give that some thought. Thanks for the suggestion :)
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 10:34 am (UTC)
http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/09/13/1625234

(Suggestions for a PC Home Tech Support Business?)

I think it's a pretty good idea, if your area will support it.

Remote sys-admin is also promising. Your skills may or may not be up-to-date there, but I know you have skills, and shell scripts are shell scripts, even when the shell changes some.

You could try partnering up with a cheap virtual hosting company (whether or not you let them know you're a partner :) and offer cheapo-sysadmin+virtual-colo services. Small businesses may bite, and all you'd really be doing is reselling a virtual colo spot and actually logging into it from time to time, once it's set up. You could probably run the thing through alarm scripts and just do nothing, more often than not.

Hell, I'd probably be willing to pay you to set up a virtual colo for me one of these days, though I dunno about ongoing admin. I've been wanting to move my now-numerous domains over a server I control, but really have no idea how to set it up. It'd be valuable to me to have someone do it who knows how to comment a script and write basic "what did I change/where is this rc?" docs for me.

I don't know about remote coding, unless you've kept yourself up or are willing to do some damned quick cramming. The landscape's changed a lot in the last 5-10 years.
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 11:57 am (UTC)
"now-numerous domains"? :)

Yeah, there's a bunch of new languages on the playing field, and for want of a good learning project I haven't even kept up really with a lot of the last round. :p Python, Ruby, Java ... heck, I never actually learned any of the ++ bits of C++.

That Slashdot thread is useful ... the suggestion about focusing on home/SOHO network setup is good.
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 12:26 pm (UTC)
That's where I'd concentrate, yeah. It's a brand-new world, and semi-necessary home tech has outstripped the learning curve a bit.

I have something like ten domains right now. It's enough that managing them through a hosting company is a pain.

Mostly, I want control over my own software loadout. My current host doesn't support Ruby on Rails, and I'd like to learn it. I could go to a host that does, but they'd eventually not support something I wanted.

C's not all that popular outside of systems or embedded programming anymore. And embedded is more like C wrappers around ASM, in a lot of cases. There are still legacy C projects to be had, though. It's possible you might find something in that route if you got lucky.
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 12:35 pm (UTC)
C's not all that popular outside of systems or embedded programming anymore. And embedded is more like C wrappers around ASM, in a lot of cases. There are still legacy C projects to be had, though. It's possible you might find something in that route if you got lucky.
Yeah, I hear you. C++ has that shiny ++, so it must automatically be, like, better.

Honestly, if I could figure out something non-computer-related to do for a living that I was good at, I'd get out of IT altogether. There's too many pinheads, too many people who think buzzwords trump anything else, and too many people who expect to be able to hire Larry Wall for the hourly rate of an Indian summer intern because they could hire an Indian summer intern for that rate, so why not? (Plus, I feel like all my skills have gotten stale, and playing catch-up seems futile when you basically can't get a job without hands-on industry experience within the last year anyway.)
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 12:53 pm (UTC)
Well, actually, C++ is kind of limited too, now.

Application programming is C++ in Unix (Qt/KDE, varies for GNOME), but it's Objective C on Mac, .NET (usually C# or Managed C++, somewhat different) on Windows, Java or web-based for cross-platform.

Database/Enterprise stuff is either the same, or 4GL of some kind (Delphi or more esoteric tools). Nowadays, a lot of it is web-based intranet.

Test Automation, like I do, is either based on an API or reflection-scheme in the language of the app it automates, based around a proprietary language, or--for a couple of test systems--based on more general scripting languages like python or tcl.

Systems programming is pretty specialized. So's compiler or driver programming (another C possibility I forgot) or embedded.

Not saying it's impossible or anything, just probably not a short-term plan. If you were truly interested in coding, best bet's to find some open-source project you like and hitch up. That way, you'll get some practice and possibly some visibility.
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 01:25 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I've been meaning to get back to work on Bacula, but before I can do that, I have to get up to date with the current version of Bacula, and I can't really do that until I get a complete OS reinstall done on babylon5 and get rid of all the legacy cruft and bitrot, and I haven't really been getting anywhere doing that...

It'd be easier if I had a 2.6 kernel on babylon5, because then I could effectively build a new install in a chroot environment until I get it usable... but I'm still running 2.4 because I can't easily upgrade to 2.6 without changing a lot of how the system is set up.

What I really need is another machine to install on. Much easier and less brain-hurty than trying to do a major upgrade-in-place on a machine you can't really afford downtime on.
Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 06:54 pm (UTC)
Have you tried Usermode Linux? I used it to play around with virtual hosting on a 2.4.20 box
Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 07:14 pm (UTC)
I can't honestly say I've ever even heard of Usermode Linux.

Actually, what I probably need is something like VMWare. Do a Gentoo install in a virtual machine, wait until I've gotten everything nailed down, then save the important configs and do the install for real.
Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 07:20 pm (UTC)
http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/

It's a relatively painless way to mess around with multiple different Linux distros without having to reinstall. It's a bit of a pain to manage, but no more so than VMWare, and it's a good deal less resource intensive.

The only problem I've had with it so far is setting up X under it, but I think that's more of a learning issue than a real limitation.
Thursday, February 28th, 2008 07:40 pm (UTC)
The documentation on that project is terrible. I've been looking through both the old and the new sites and still can't find out basic things like "must I use that specific kernel", "how do I install an arbitrary Linux distribution from scratch under UML", "CAN I install an arbitrary Linux distribution from scratch under UML", etc, etc.

(Of course, mere minutes after stating that, I find - I think - the information I was looking for.)
Saturday, March 1st, 2008 05:09 am (UTC)
I like VMWare but also check out VirtualBox. We've got some guys playing with that with great success.
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 01:13 pm (UTC)
Oh, and wanted to say, I hear you. My dry spell wasn't as long as yours, but believe you me, I was making plans for an exit. Then I fell into QA, and found my niche in an unexpected sector.

QA isn't exactly the sexy part of software development, but it turns out that my software building skill set is kind of rare there. It's put me at a distinct career advantage.

So, sometimes it's not about the suitability of the skill set. Sometimes, changing the context makes all the difference.
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 01:26 pm (UTC)
Glad to hear that worked out well.
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 08:55 pm (UTC)
If it came off like bragging, I apologize--I didn't mean it that way.

I just meant that there may be opportunities you're not considering, because they're not the usual career path for our skills. I think the SOHO/home support idea is a good step towards exploring some new ideas.
Tuesday, February 26th, 2008 09:50 pm (UTC)
If it came off like bragging, I apologize--I didn't mean it that way.
Just as well I didn't take it that way then, innit?. ;)

I understand what you mean, yes. I just don't see at the moment what they might be. There's lots of things I know how to do — the big problem would be convincing people to pay me to do them, when I've never been paid to do them before. (Well, that and picking the right one in the first place.)
Wednesday, February 27th, 2008 07:11 pm (UTC)
A couple of suggestions on the "start a business" front:

1) The first thing you're going to need is customers. Insurance, permits, equipment, bank accounts, etc. can all wait until you've secured your first customer. If you can't get that customer, spending money on the rest of the "real business" trappings won't help.

2) Once you do go through the paperwork stuff (particularly registration and licensing with the state and/or county), you're going to be deluged with marketing from folks who want to sell you business-oriented stuff. If you can, you may want to get a voicemail number, and list that as your "official" business number on all government paperwork.