In the footsteps of bbwoof and riverheart

[unixronin]

But in my own words:

Fair Use notice regarding "hit-and-run" commenting:

Be advised that this is a public journal, and the majority of the posts in it are unfiltered.  Do not post anything in a comment to this journal that you do not want to be visible to anyone who can view that post, unless I have explicitly stated that comments to the post in question will be screened.  In particular, I will not tolerate hit-and-run commenting.

"Hit-and-run commenting" is a behavior in which people post a comment, frequently containing nasty remarks which the commenter does not wish to be seen in public but wishes myself or the commenter they are following up to receive in email, then immediately delete the comment before anyone else can see it.  This constitutes legal notice that I reserve the right to copy and repost at my discretion, at the security level of the original post to which the comment was made, any part or all of the content of any comment made to this journal, regardless of whether the comment is subsequently deleted.  If you don't want it seen in public, don't post it in my journal; it's that simple.  I don't care WHAT copyright claims you may care to make regarding content posted in your own journal; this is MY journal, and you will abide by MY fair-use rights for anythng you post in it.  By commenting in my journal, you explicitly agree that my intent to preserve and display your comment as stated above does not in any way constitute a violation of law, of ethics, or of LiveJournal's Terms of Service, and you explicitly acknowledge full fair-use rights with regard to all or any part of your comment by myself or any other commenter in my journal.

This should not in any regard be taken to restrict or prohibit replacing a comment with a substantially similar comment in order to correct a factual, grammatical, spelling or formatting error, nor does it restrict your right to post a retraction of any comment you later think better of, and I will not use this policy to make public any information in a screened comment that is not abusive and which the poster of the comment has not granted permission to unscreen.

(Frankly, if you don't behave in an intentionally abusive manner on LiveJournal, this Fair Use notice is highly unlikely to ever affect you.)

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Comments

[pernishus.livejournal.com]

"Dear me," remarks Pernicious the Musquodoboit Harbour Farm Cat, "I shall henceforward think seven times before posting anything at all... after all, I have been known to make the odd (sometimes very odd) abusive remark... of course, I never retract anything, so I shouldn't think this new (and admirably well-formulated) policy, which, after all, refers only to rapidly deleted remarks, would cause me overwhelming difficulties..."

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Doesn't a cat ALWAYS think seven times beforehand anyway? :)

[pernishus.livejournal.com]

"Seven times seven, my dear sir..."

[yndy.livejournal.com]

I'm guessing this is a reaction to that whole davidkevin debacle...

But to be frank, if someone were bizarrely stupid enough to want to spend the time and money to file suit, it wouldn't hold up in court.

You can't take someone's copyrights away simply by stating that you are going to... not without an actual release. It just wouldn't hold up.
Even LJ abuse is aware of that.

Even electronic indicators (click this button to acknowledge that you reliquish XXX right) are questionable and seldom hold up in court. Without a signed release, it's rather useless.

But that said - I understand your frustration and the attempt to alleve it via this post. Sorry for all the weirdness your friend went through.

Hopefully, this entire post will become a completely moot point as the morons who have issues with it will just move on to somewhere else.

{{hug}}

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Quite honestly, if someone wants to take me to court saying "I copyrighted my journal saying that nothing in it and nothing I post in anyone else's may be reproduced without my permission, then I called him a lying racist babyraping cryptofascist pedophile queer hosebag in a comment in his journal and immediately deleted it, and he QUOTED ME, the plagiarizing bastard!!!!!", it'd be worth going to court just to see the look on the judge's face.

[yndy.livejournal.com]

yes, yes it would...

a lying racist babyraping cryptofascist pedophile queer hosebag

The thought of anyone calling YOU that is just mystifying - and would make me question his/her sanity seriously!!

Truly strange.

[janetmiles.livejournal.com]

This should not in any regard be taken to restrict or prohibit replacing a comment with a substantially similar comment in order to correct a factual, grammatical, spelling or formatting error,

I just wanted to appreciate this clause, because I have been known to delete and replace comments for those very reasons. Thank you.

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

I know; I do it myself, when I don't notice an error until just after I post it, or when I accidentally click "Submit" instead of "Preview" on an incomplete comment ... etc.

[cymrullewes.livejournal.com]

I think we all do so.

I'm not sure which is better though. Not being able to corrected a comment and having to make a new one and delete the old one (if you wish) or having an edited at such and such time by commenter like some other blog software does.

I lean more towards the edit behaviour. Mainly to keep the conversational flow intact.

What really annoys me though is when LJ allows someone to make the same comment twice (gives the can't post comment, feature is unavailable, database is busy or some such but posts it anyhow but the commenter thinks it didn't so comments again), then you respond to one comment and the poster deletes that comment in favour of the other comment.

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

What she said. I think the lack of ability to edit your comments in livejournal is very broken behavior, and all the arguments voiced against it are, frankly, completely specious and lacking in merit.

Yes, OK, I grant that if you could edit comments and LJ did not maintain any kind of viewable edit history of comments, just like it currently does not maintain an edit history of the actual posts, you COULD maliciously edit a comment after the fact to make someone else's following comment look stupid ............... JUST LIKE YOU CAN WITH ANY POST RIGHT NOW. Why is it OK to be able to do it to posts, but bad, horrible, terrible to be able to do it to comments?

Irony'R'Us

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Not being able to corrected a comment

<Cymrullewes> Case in point. :)

[olafthunderfoot.livejournal.com]

mind if i steal this for my lj?

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Go for it.

[olafthunderfoot.livejournal.com]

danke!

[bbwoof.livejournal.com]

As usual, you have managed to take a good thing and make it BETTER.