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Monday, September 12th, 2005 03:02 pm (UTC)
This is what happens when formerly well-employed people can't find a comparable job because it's been shipped overseas. So they end up working for Wal-mart, which has made a big contribution to shipping jobs overseas so they can sell cheap...
Monday, September 12th, 2005 04:37 pm (UTC)
And the headline says, "Wal-Mart creates 600 new jobs in Podunk, Nebraska!"
Thursday, September 15th, 2005 08:59 pm (UTC)
but destroys tens of thousands by buying overseas crap. when's the last time you saw a made in USA label on something?

we need to quit buyin cheap foreign crap, and the education system in this country is a joke, that's why 2 japanese car companies opted to put new plants in canada and not the USA.
Thursday, September 15th, 2005 10:00 pm (UTC)
Unfortunately, a lot of people buy the foreign products because many of the American products on the market are crap. For example:
TVs -- Quasar or Magnavox vs. Sony, Panasonic, Philips or Grundig.
"Consumer" audio equipment -- Fisher or Audiovox vs. Pioneer, Sony or Akai. ( think there's still one or two decent high-end audio companies left.)
Cars -- Ford or General Motors vs. Toyota, Honda, Nissan, BMW. (Or Volvo; I don't think Ford has managed to ruin Volvo yet.)
Motorcycles -- Harley Davidson vs. Honda, Kawasaki, BMW or Aprilia.

I always used to buy GM cars. I owned three Camaros in a row, until GM killed off the Camaro. The last one, the only one I bought new, fragged its transmission, fragged its rear-end, had a window motor drop dead after only 30,000 miles, and had a high-level brake light stupidly positioned in the dead center of the rear-view mirror line of sight. Then I bought a Dodge Intrepid R/T. It's had one electrical problem after another, after another, after another. The trunk light has been non-working almost as much as it's worked, and it took three dealers and almost the entire warranty period to get it fixed. Now all the available trunk remote opening options are dead, and the interior lights flicker on by themselves when you drive it.
The used Mercedes C230 I picked up in California while I was working there earlier this year has been a revelation. I've always asked things like, "If I can have one-touch express-down on the driver's window, why can't I have express-up, too? And why not on all four windows instead of just the driver's?" Well, the C230 has both of those. And all my motorcycles have been Hondas, and they've always Just Worked.
I've given the American auto industry plenty of chances to Not Fuck Up, and it's blown all of them. There's never been any decent American-made audio equipment on the market in my budget range at all. American TV manufacturers didn't stop building heavy, bulky, poor-performing crap until people stopped buying them. Most American-built home appliances are 20 years behind the same appliance on the Euro market.

Bluntly, much of the American manufactured goods industry's problems are its own fault. After World War 2, we went and rebuilt Japan, and we told them how to run modern industries. We told them about proper quality management, and design lifecycles, and efficiency.
The Japanese listened. And then they went and did something even more radical, that American industry had never done -- they took all these techniques and best practices, and they followed them. And that's why they ate Detroit's lunch -- because they built reliable, modern, fuel-efficient cars, when Detroit was still happy to churn out the same old antiquated, unreliable, 12mpg clunkers, selling 1950s technology in 1980, and thought they could get away with it forever because all the labor union workers would continue to buy them because even if they were complete junk, they were American-built junk.

Now, the generation that's willing to buy inferior products for twice the price just because they're American is no longer driving the market. Most of the consumers out there now are buying whatever's the best product for the least money, and that's seldom an American product.

You're 100% right, American jobs won't come back until American consumers start buying American-made products again. The trouble is, they're not going to do that until the Americal products are worth buying, and too many American industries don't get that. They're STARTING to -- Maytag, for one, has finally started actually building innovative products, but only in about the last seven or eight years -- but the $64,000 question is: Is it too little, too late?
Thursday, September 15th, 2005 10:30 pm (UTC)
yup, it's too little too late, even the american cars are bein built with foriegn parts. hell, yer lucky to get 200k miles from one of the new american cars, we have an 03 stratus sitting in the shop that self-destructed it's engine.
Thursday, September 15th, 2005 10:34 pm (UTC)
Yup ... our Intrepid only has 75K on it. The Z28 fragged its tranny in 58K, and the rearend within about another 10K.
Friday, September 16th, 2005 06:11 am (UTC)
~sighs~ i miss my '69 Chevy pickup!