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Saturday, October 31st, 2009 10:29 pm

WASHINGTON, Oct. 31 (UPI) -- The Obama administration says it will continue its predecessor's policy of using state secrets authority to block disclosures about warrantless eavesdropping.

OK, so ... anyone out there still believe in Obama enough to try to spin this?

Electronic Frontier Foundation attorney Kevin Bankson told CNN Holder's move represented a continuation of Bush's policies and stands in sharp contrast to the promises of greater government transparency and accountability Obama made during his presidential campaign.

"It turns out that 'change we can believe in' hasn't really resulted in any change at all when it comes to government secrecy," he told the broadcaster.

But at least the Bush administration didn't make any empty boasts about being "the most open administration in history".

Republican.  Democrat.  It makes no damned difference.  Both are rotten to the core, united by their love of power.  There is no "lesser evil" on Capitol Hill.  There is only the same evil wearing two different faces.  They play different favorites; but they both play favorites.  They take different special interests' money; but they're both owned body and soul by special interests.  They go after different Constitutional and civil rights first; but they both attack and undermine Constitutional and civil rights. They sometimes tell the voters different lies; but they are both cut from the same pack of habitual liars.  Only when both parties' followers learn that, will there be any chance of changing it.

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Sunday, November 1st, 2009 03:49 am (UTC)
We share that special hell.
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 04:06 am (UTC)

:)

Thanks. It feels lonely sometimes. Conservative friends think I'm a liberal pansy, and liberal friends think I'm a militia-prone xenophobic anti-government "fringer".

Neither is accurate, but there's a dash of truth in both recipes, I suppose.

Sunday, November 1st, 2009 04:16 am (UTC)
I'm from the South. State Rights before Federal Rights and Personal Liberties before all others. Really and truly I care not one whit what you do as long as it does not infringe upon me or any other. But most importantly, I do NOT want to see or hear what you are doing! I'll most gladly stay out of your business and you'd damned well better stay out of mine.
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 04:27 am (UTC)


I keep forgetting that you're from the South. My girlfriend was born and raised in Mississippi, then lived in New Orleans for awhile. I was raised in Southern California. We both wound up here in Denver with this sort of weird mutual pro-South/West libertarian with progressive social tendencies thing. Coming out here from MS and LA was for her escaping from oppressive social conservatism. For me, coming from CA, it was stepping a bit away from that Hard Left/The State Will Take Care of Everything. I think we're pretty close to the happy medium here. Not perfect, but not too terribly far off.

We both agree we want a couple dozen acres somewhere, and machine gun nests.We just can't agree where...North Carolina, or the Inter-Mountain West? :P



Sunday, November 1st, 2009 04:59 am (UTC)
No THAT is an attitude that I can wholeheartedly agree with!

Do what you want, don't rub my nose it it. I'll do what I want, keep your nose out!

I'm from Missouri. Not really the south.
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 04:32 am (UTC)
I know what you mean. Myself, I tend to regard both as intolerant, in different ways. In some ways, the card-carrying liberals can be more intolerant than the card-carrying conservatives — god help you if you don't fit into one of their preconceived stereotypes of who and what you should be.
Edited 2009-11-01 04:32 am (UTC)
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 04:48 am (UTC)


I have been lambasted pretty badly by Libs, as you've probably seen on neph_politics. Actually, more often it's just a deafening silence. You can almost hear them thinking, "OMG, I can't believe he said that."
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 05:05 am (UTC)
politics is usually the one area everyone agrees that everyone else is wrong about something... and if you just yell at them long enough and loud enough about why & how they are wrong, suddenly they'll see the light! (okay, yeah, not happening...)

Sunday, November 1st, 2009 05:16 am (UTC)


whoa, a ghost!

hey there...
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 08:30 am (UTC)
Heya! I delurk occasionally! On here especially, but then, [livejournal.com profile] unixronin makes me think a lot! :)

Hope life is good!
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 03:35 pm (UTC)
Thank you. :)
Sunday, November 1st, 2009 05:06 am (UTC)
I tend to not fit into either group well. I am far too liberal for my conservative friends, and pretty conservative for my liberal friends. I have learned to just be quiet about it most times. I find the liberals to be the most intolerant, in-your-face christians (small 'c') included.

"... Time after time we lose sight of the way. Our causes can't see their effects."
Monday, November 2nd, 2009 04:25 am (UTC)
hey, i'm running in a similar world, too. still a little shy about being to open about some of it. people don't take kindly to having their pigeonholes busted. but i really shouldn't care so much.