The graphical Aspie map

[unixronin]

No surprises here.

Aspie: 152/200, neurotypical: 55/200.  I seem to recall that's about what I got on the previous, non-graphical version.  Find the test here.

Afterthought:  I wonder how difficult it would be to write a little program that would take any two result sets, calculate the amount of overlap vs. the amount of difference, and express that as a kind of commonality factor...?

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[house-pundit.livejournal.com]

Link?

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Sorry. Right here. (http://www.rdos.net/eng/Aspie-quiz.php)

[smandal.livejournal.com]

I expected it to be more extreme, with stronger tilts towards compulsion and the Aspie side of hunting. I answered "a little" on a lot of questions; a finer gradation might have changed things.

[ithildae.livejournal.com]

Aspie: 146/200
NT: 61/200

That is statistically the same as what I got last time. The difference you are thinking about is called the Variance. (But you knew that...)

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Extremely similar to mine. I think it's easier to compare them in this form.

[ithildae.livejournal.com]

Two reasons for that, It breaks them out into six axis numbers, and it presents them graphically. Human comprehension is, fundamentally, and analog process.

It is kind of interesting how close our scores turn out to be.

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

You realize, of course, this poses a new problem: Which one of us is the evil twin? :)

[ithildae.livejournal.com]

Why does there have to be a good twin? Not liking the idea of twins. That means that one is a spare.

[wolfspaw.livejournal.com]

http://www.rdos.net/eng/quizpoly.php?p1=56&p2=61&p3=48&p4=52&p5=54&p6=58&p7=48&p8=66&p9=37


A:101/200
NT:122/200

Never heard of this before....
so it doesn't really mean that much to me :)

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Very "well rounded" and centered towards neurotypical/communication. That doesn't surprise me. I always said you were one of the saner people I know, and pretty much on an even keel. :)

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

(By which I don't mean in any way to imply that non-neurotypical means not sane.)

[beckyzoole.livejournal.com]

http://www.rdos.net/eng/quizpoly.php?p1=26&p2=77&p3=32&p4=33&p5=69&p6=79&p7=17&p8=86&p9=25

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

I think you win the "most neurotypical so far" prize. :) Congratulations, you're boring er, ordinary ... uh ... socially well-rounded.. ;)





(Just kidding of course.....)

[beckyzoole.livejournal.com]

But but but, I don't wanna be ordinary!

I pick at scabs and twiddle my fingers a lot. That should count for something. grumble grumble grumble

[ithildae.livejournal.com]

Wow! You can talk to ANYBODY!

[beckyzoole.livejournal.com]

I can talk, but will they listen? :-)

[ithildae.livejournal.com]

I thought the question was: Will they understand?

[callahanshappy.livejournal.com]

[img]http://www.rdos.net/eng/quizpoly.php?p1=82&p2=42&p3=77&p4=90&p5=26&p6=23&p7=77&p8=21&p9=83[/img]

[bunrab.livejournal.com]

Mine looks rather similar:

[wyrdling.livejournal.com]

but i'm not sure what to make of it. "hunting"? "talent"?

i always figured myself and at least one of my siblings tended this way, but i have no idea how much or how to scale the results... or what conclusions to draw.

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Well, first of all I didn't write the test, and don't know what definitions precisely the author had in mind. But "hunting", I think, refers to your propensity and aptitudes towards skills that would be useful in hunting and stalking prey — feeling at home in the wild, treading lightly, moving quietly, patience, stealth, focus. "Talent", I think, is to do with ability and — again — propensity to apply your intellectual capabilities to a goal. But I'm somewhat guessing on those. I don't know for sure.

As for conclusions from the results ... well: The test seems to be pretty accurate, as far as consistently "detecting" known Aspies. There appears to be a strong correlation. But the most I can say is that your test result is very similar to my own result, and to results for other people whom I know to have been, like myself, fully tested and positively diagnosed with Asperger's. So the odds are high that you also have Asperger's.

This isn't necessarily a good thing; it isn't necessarily a bad thing. But sometimes it can be an enlightening thing. You might want to consider learning more about Asperger's to see whether it helps explain things about the subjective world you live in, particularly if you've ever felt left out — as though, so to speak, you were stuck on the wrong side of a glass wall. (I often felt I was a bird battering myself to death against it.) Your results are a little higher on the social/communication axes than mine, a little lower on compulsion; and environment is always a factor as well. You may not have experienced that in the same way I have. I can't see inside your head; I don't know. But if you have ever thought you seemed different from other people and somehow didn't fit in, this may be why. I know that when I learned what Asperger's was, and learned that I have had it all my life, it was a great revelation to me and eased my mind greatly, because for the first time in my life I knew that I was not imagining things, there really was an entire level of social communication that everyone else instinctively used and understood without having to think about it, but to which I was completely blind. Knowing that I had Asperger's, and what that means, didn't magically make it suddenly all better. But it did make a lot of things suddenly make sense that had never made sense before.

Hope I'm not treading on your toes in any way, I'm just ... offering what perspective I can. It's not always a lot. But for what it's worth, there it is.

[wyrdling.livejournal.com]

that's what i felt when i first ran across the description of asberger's, actually. the enlightenment.
but the one person i trust to talk about these sorts of things with refuses to believe there might be anything "wrong" with me. that i can just "fix" the way i relate to people by trying harder.
and i can catch some of the "rules" but they're really counterintuitive to me.

i've actually used the glass wall metaphor a lot in talking about my experiences. ;)

thanks for the feedback. it's nice to think i may not be imagining things.

i'm afraid to go to any kind of professional for a diagnosis though. worried about being "labelled."

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

the one person i trust to talk about these sorts of things with refuses to believe there might be anything "wrong" with me. that i can just "fix" the way i relate to people by trying harder.

There isn't anything "wrong" with you. It's not a "wrong". It's a "different". It's a "different" that takes some learning to live with, and has its own drawbacks, but it has its compensations too. But "try harder" ... yeah. I know that one in spaces. Some of the things I've been told I should do to fit in .... :p

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

oh, and I meant to add, don't be afraid of getting a professional diagnosis. It should be confidential between you and whoever you go to for the assessment, and you may learn things about your capabilities in the process. When I went and got tested, they ended up adding in additional tests to the standard neuro-psychological test battery because I went through the standard ones so fast. There's a section in the test when they have you do things like memorize strings of random digits from hearing them once, then repeat them back reversed, say, or with each pair of digits swapped. They told me some of the things I could do, no-one else they'd tested had ever done. It can be eye-opening, as well, not just to realize that there are things everyone else takes for granted that you can't do, but to realize that there are things you just do without thinking about it that "neurotypical" people just can't do at all, or only with great effort.

[wyrdling.livejournal.com]

well, i took part in a research study as a "healthy control" this summer and blasted through a number of their tests. they told me they'd never seen anyone get scores so high on certain things (reaction time, for one.)
it was sort of mind boggling.
(they were testing the effects of schizophrenia and alcoholism on brain function)

they told me there was no way i had add. which i'd also been pondering. (that more typically "female" kind where one spaces out and daydreams when something's boring. like most of elementary school, for me.) not with those reaction times. apparently no one with add could sit at a blinking screen for 15 minutes pushing a button when a letter popped up. ;P in fact, apparently "normal" people tend to stop before it's done, too.

anyway, i have to agree, there's a lot of compensations. i can do a lot of things really well that most people can't. one reason why i refuse to believe there's anything "wrong" with me. i'm wired different and function different. but finding an explanation and perhaps figure out some adaptational strategies for my aptitude deficits would be nice.

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

apparently no one with add could sit at a blinking screen for 15 minutes pushing a button when a letter popped up. ;P in fact, apparently "normal" people tend to stop before it's done, too.

Yeah, that one was part of the neuropsych testing too. I think they had me in front of it for about 20 minutes, and I think I missed something like two letters when my attention wandered and I just zoned out thinking about something else for a moment.

"Wired different" is exactly it. (In fact, some recent research suggests that where the wiring is different is in the mirror neurons that enable neurotypical humans to anticipate and understand other people's actions. New Scientist has had several articles on this in the last year or so.)

There's an Asperger's Association of New England out here that apparently has a lot of sessions on adaptation strategies and skills, but, well ... a more honest name for it would be ASperger's Association of Massachusetts. Sessions are, more or less, open to anyone who can get to downtown Boston in time for a 7pm meeting. :p

[wyrdling.livejournal.com]

that is amazingly geographically inconvenient for me.
but i guess i could go look into seeing what's around here.
maybe i can get in touch with the research institute and see if they can suggest anywhere for me to go. i'm sure they'd have a better idea than i do.

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

that is amazingly geographically inconvenient for me.

Heh. My point was that, even though they claim to be for all of New England, it's geographically inconvenient for me here in New Hampshire. ;) I wasn't suggesting for a moment that you should even consider travelling from ABQ to Boston for an Aspie support group.

But yeah. It can't hurt to ask around. There's even that Famous Web Search Engine that could be pointed at, say, "Asperger's support services" or somesuch search string.

[wyrdling.livejournal.com]

btw, just friended you. not a problem i hope ;)

[unixronin.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I was sorta hoping you might :)