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Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 11:38 am

CNN carries a report of a provision that was found buried in the small print of the omnibus spending bill now before Congress that would have allowed the chairmen of the House and Senate appropriations committees, or their agents, to examine the tax returns of any American.  The buried language was reportedly found by Democratic staffers in the Senate after the House passed the bill.  The Senate has removed the language and has declared it will not pass the bill until the House has time to pass a similar fix; in the meantime, a stopgap funding measure good through December 3 has been passed.

Now, remember a little while back I mentioned that what America really needed was a true moderate ticket?  Specifically, I wished it were possible to get John McCain and Bill Bradley on a Presidential ticket together.  Well, if memory serves, Bill Bradley quit politics in disgust.  But take a look at what John McCain had to say about this (emphasis mine):

House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, a California Democrat, said in a written statement that "The Republicans' lack of transparency and willingness to abuse their power is undermining democracy.  It should be of grave concern to all Americans that their privacy could be invaded by such an outrageous provision."

Sen. John McCain said Sunday that the episode points up the problems created when Congress passes gigantic spending bills at the end of a session, before anyone has time to read them.

"If there is ever a graphic example of the broken system that we now have, that certainly has to be it," the Arizona Republican said on NBC's "Meet The Press."  "How many other provisions didn't we find in that 1,000-page bill?"

Yeah, quite the contrast, huh?  Nancy Pelosi jumps right into an accusatory slam against the Republicans, before anyone even knows who inserted the language; John McCain goes directly to the problem and openly acknowledges that the whole system is broken and needs to be fixed.

I now observe, as a final note, that NPR was mentioning the other day that John McCain is rumored to be a strong contender for the Republican Presidential nomination in 2008.

Now there's a Presidential nomination I can get behind ... 2008 may be the first time in 20 years that America doesn't have to choose between two evils.

Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 08:43 am (UTC)
Yeah. Damn Nancy for opening her big mouth, huh? Especially when it turned out to be Rep. Istook one of the bought and paid for by the National Right To Life organization who just happens to be Republican, huh?

The very nerve of the woman.

Sounds to me like she was making an educated guess and lo and behold she was right. What a real big surprise.
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 10:34 am (UTC)
Not damn her but she's not helping, is she, by immediately blaming the other.

It's that sort of kneejerk reaction that's gets people in to the deep kimchee.
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 01:10 pm (UTC)
Wouldn't she have had some serious egg on her face if it had turned out to be a Democrat? My point stands: McCain talked about the underlying problem, Pelosi's first priority was to jump to conclusions and make accusations. The fact that it DID turn out to be a Republican who inserted it doesn't change that, but I wouldn't hesitate for one second to believe that, say, Dianne Feinstein might not have tried the same thing.

I'm glad to hear they figured out so quickly who inserted it, and I hope he gets what he deserves for it.
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 09:27 am (UTC)
2008 may be the first time in 20 years that America doesn't have to choose between two evils.

We've never had to choose between two evils.

There are always other options.

Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 01:12 pm (UTC)
OK, let me reword that:

2008 may be the first time in 20 years that the two major parties have not offered America a choice between two evils.
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 03:06 pm (UTC)
Up to old tricks. I remember back in the '80's when they tried to slide a really egregious little clause into the tag end of an enormous end-of-session appropriations bill. Seems they tacked in a definition that a "religion" had to be a Judeo-Christian-based faith, to qualify for government recognition/benefits (read: "tax-exempt status"). Fortunately, someone caught that one, too.
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 03:15 pm (UTC)
I still think there needs to be a hard limit on the length of bills presented by Congress. Something along the lines of, "If you can't do it in [for example] fifty pages, you shouldn't be doing it."
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 04:00 pm (UTC)
Fixing this properly is hard.

One easy fix: remove the limit of 435 members in the House. More eyes means more scrutiny, one hopes.

The obvious fixes of "bills on one subject" or "limited length" both have problems.

Some law needs to be long, in order to be grindingly precise.

And drawing circles around a subject is hard and arbitrary. It'll just change the parameters for log rolling (http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/logrolling.html), but not the practice.

In the end, the Congress, as a political class, has decided to operate things this way, and unless and until We The People object by throwing the bastards out, it'll stay that way.

Worse, the problem is always talked about in terms of Congress as a whole, "but my representative is OK." This is why CA voters enacted term limits, and yet they keep on re-electing incumbents. It's not clear to me that change has helped yet: need to wait at least three cycles after the bastards who it was enacted to flush get flushed.

A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until a majority of voters discover that they can vote themselves largess out of the public treasury. (http://www.bartleby.com/73/424.html)
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 04:40 pm (UTC)
yay photo! :-) And finally figured one way you found [livejournal.com profile] unixronin. [livejournal.com profile] tague who I've only met once and that was by accident at the Weird Al Yankovic concert almost 6 years ago now.
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 04:48 pm (UTC)
Ah, yes. Thomas Babington, Lord Macauley.

"...From that moment on, the majority (who vote) will vote for the candidates promising the greatest benefits from the public purse, with the result that a democracy will always collapse from loose fiscal policies, always followed by a dictatorship.

"The average age of the world's greatest democratic nations has been 200 years. Each has been through the following sequence: From bondage to spiritual faith, from faith to great courage, from courage to liberty, from liberty to abundance, from abundance to complacency, from complacency to selfishness, from selfishness to apathy, from apathy to dependency, and from dependency back again into bondage.
(http://www.babcom.com/alaric/quotations.html#macauley)

I know it well.... and yes, you've hit the nail on the head. As long as people keep re-electing the crooks, they'll be governed by crooks.
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 05:22 pm (UTC)
Apropos of that quote file and your ending comment, here's a bit of dialog from Married to the Mob (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/6301216229/102-4009501-5402526?v=glance&vi=quotes-trivia)

Angela de Marco: God, you people work just like the mob! There's no difference!


FBI Regional Director Franklin: Oh, there's a big difference, Mrs. de Marco. The mob is run by murdering, thieving, lying, cheating psychopaths. We work for the President of the United States of America.



That got a roar from the crowd when I saw it in the theatre.
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 05:29 pm (UTC)
Oh, one more thing. I got the Tytler quote from here (http://www.clock.org/~fair/opinion/taxes.html).
Tuesday, November 23rd, 2004 05:43 pm (UTC)
How interesting. We have a conflict of attribution. Bartleby says "attributed to Alexander Fraser Tytler, Lord Woodhouselee"; I've always seen it attributed to Thomas Babington, Lord Macauley.